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August 2004


August 30, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I have an ADN degree and am interested in infection control nursing. My income and situation is such that an RN-to-BSN program is out of the question. Any ideas for me to get more involved in infection control?

PS

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Dear PS,

Infection control is a fascinating section of health care, but I don’t even think you would get a job with a BSN, let alone an associate’s degree. This is a very complicated job, and the infection control practitioners I have worked with have a broad background not only in nursing, but in statistics, research, and microbiology. This requires formal education, and the infection control nurses I know all have either a master’s in nursing or public health.

I would encourage you to look at alternative ways to follow your dream. So many hospitals have tuition reimbursement packages and flexible schedules to help busy RNs accomplish their goals. Start slow and you will eventually get there.
In the meanwhile, network with as many infection control practitioners as you can. Not all are nurses; some have degrees in microbiology or other sciences. See what they say to encourage you.

Good luck.

Nurse Nancy

August 25, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I have worked as an RN in a busy pediatric emergency room for five years. I recently found out that I have been paid as a new RN in the 1-3 year category. I am really frustrated and am seeking employment elsewhere. Should I ask my manager why my pay scale is so low or should I move on?

FD

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Dear FD,

There are a couple of things to think about in your situation. First of all, this may be simply a payroll error. I would think that as a registered professional nurse, you have some responsibility to know what your salary is and to make sure it is correct.

I think you should bring it to the attention of your manager, and work through this challenge; be professional and get all the facts before you merely leave your job. There may be circumstances which are quite innocent that you are not aware of. If indeed you are being held back financially, ask for an evaluation of your performance and for the specific goals you have to accomplish to get there. Be sure to get time frames for accomplishments, and ask for all of this in writing.

Good luck.

Nurse Nancy

August 23, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I am interested in getting into forensic nursing. I have a diverse background in nursing including med-surg, ambulatory care, home health, and case management. I have been told that most forensic nurses have a background in the ER. Do you feel this is necessary? Would having ER experience help me with job opportunities in forensics? Thank you.

LC

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Dear LC,

I think having ED experience is a large part of forensic nursing. There is much to be learned from working with victims of rape, violence, and trauma. You will get all of that from working in an emergency department. A place to find out more information is the International Association of Forensic Nurses, whose website is www.forensicnurse.org. This is how they describe the work of forensic nurses:

Forensic nursing is the cutting-edge issue in education, practice, and research as we prepare for critical issues in health care in the 21st century. Forensic nursing is the application of nursing science to public or legal proceedings; the application of the forensic aspects of health care combined with the bio-psycho-social education of the registered nurse in the scientific investigation, and treatment of trauma and/or death of victims and perpetrators of abuse, violence, criminal activity, and traumatic accidents.

The forensic nurse provides direct services to individual clients, consultation services to nursing, medical and law related agencies, as well as providing expert court testimony in areas dealing with trauma and/or questioned death investigative processes, adequacy of services delivery, and specialized diagnoses of specific conditions as related to nursing.
I wish you luck in your new endeavor.

Nurse Nancy

August 19, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I have been an RN for more than 10 years and have seen things go from bad to worse with nurses not supporting one another. It seems that no matter which hospital I go to, things are the same. The nurses are ready to throw one another to the wolves even when there’s not a reason to. I just don't understand why we all can’t get along and help one another with a smile on our face — where's the teamwork?! It’s been said that women just can’t work together peacefully, but I have a difficult time accepting this cop-out. Nurse Nancy, have you any idea why nurses don’t support each other? I’d like to know what the root of the problem is and perhaps try to change things.

Sincerely,

LB

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Dear LB,

I think your questions are excellent and valid. I am not sure why we see less teamwork, but I agree it seems to be less than it used to be. My guess is that nurses reflect societal changes, as we are a microcosm of society. I work with nursing students, and this topic comes up a lot — why can’t we just work together? We have different generations of nurses working together, and perhaps some of that baby boomer vs. generation Xers contributes to this.

The news is not all bad, however. I do see units with a lot of cohesion, working as a team, low turnover rate despite the pressures that we all feel. I contribute this spirit to the nurse manager, who is generally the person who sets the tone for the unit.

Don’t give up — I am hopeful that if enough of our colleagues agree with you, perhaps we can change the culture. Stranger things have happened!

Nurse Nancy

August 18, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I have heard that Texas nurses are required to obtain CEUs in bioterrorism for the renewal of their RN licenses. Is this correct? When will this be effective? How many CEUs are needed? Thank you for your help!

JA

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Dear JA,

It truly is a sign of the times that we are teaching bioterrorism, isn't it? I have not heard (or read) of any organization requiring this as a prerequisite. I checked on the Texas Board of Nursing's website, and did not see anything about it. I would suggest you contact them directly, as they can give you the most current information. Click here to get to their site: www.bne.state.tx.us/

Nurse Nancy

August 17, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

What type of in-service/training would you suggest for a few nurses that I have that have given immunizations that were had expired by a few days? Obviously, they are not looking at the vial each time or following the five rules of medication administration. This is negligence and they will be disciplined but I also want to help them to avoid repeating this. Would appreciate your recommendations.

DH

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Dear DH,

I totally agree with the approach you are taking; we need to educate our colleagues along with the discipline that is done. I would suggest that you take a look at the website for the Institute for Safe Medication Practices (www.ismp.org)

They have a great search engine, and you will likely find what you are looking for. (Or have the nurses look it up and present the information to the whole staff) The ISMP also has a newsletter which I have found helpful.

I hope that will be helpful.

Nurse Nancy

August 16, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I am a male RN from Florida. How and where can I get certification as a nurse educator? I got a job offer as a staff development or nurse educator, but I first want to become a certified nurse educator. Thanks for your advice.

PL

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Dear PL,

Congratulations on your new job. A great place for you to start is with the National Nursing Staff Development Organization (www.nnsdo.org) which will be a great resource for you. They have information on many things that will help you in your new job, and a great journal, also.

The American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC) is another good place to look for certification information. The certification is in Nursing Professional Development, and it is intended for nonacademic nurse educators. Go to the ANA website (www.nursingworld.org) and click on ANCC.

Good luck in your new position!

Nurse Nancy

August 10, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I just started a new position in a long term care facility with experience. How long should I be on orientation? I worked with a nurse approximately 3 hours on the first day, and then the next day when I came in I had to work a unit alone. The following day I was given 26 patients with over half of the medications needing to be crushed. They are all scheduled for 8am. I finished the med pass at 1:30 pm. This is definitely out of state compliance and frustrating.

LL

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Dear LL,

This does not sound like a sound plan to me at all. I know there are staffing issues across organizations, but there is more to learn than just passing medications. At this point, as an experienced LTC nurse, you should be able to find another position.

The take home message here is to ask what exactly their orientation plan is. Ask about not only length, but what is covered, how they assure competency, and so forth. You might also ask to speak with the person who does the orientation. Ask for a written copy of the orientation plan. If they have one, they will be happy to share it with you. If they can’t produce one, rethink working there. Take your time and ask questions – these places need you.

Good luck.

Nurse Nancy

August 9, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

Recently the charge nurse on my floor wrote a letter to my supervisor regarding me staying over one hour at work to complete charting and administering meds which were not available to be given at the scheduled earlier time. We had worked short of three nurses during my shift, and the charge nurse left the hospital to get her lunch despite the need for help on the floor.

My supervisor was very supportive when he talked with me about this, but now he is leaving for another position, and the letter the charge nurse wrote is in my personnel file. I have asked for a copy of the letter so that I can write a response, which I hope will also be kept in my file for the other supervisor to review if there is ever a need. What do you recommend I do to protect myself in this situation?

Thank you,

SF

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Dear SF,

I have always wondered who goes and reads “those” files. In all of my management positions, I have never gone to files to read old stuff. I wouldn’t worry about it too much, as nothing will likely happen with it. I would also encourage you to look in your policy manual. Most places have a length-of-stay policy, where they remove disciplinary documentation after a certain amount of time.

I have a suggestion if you are still worried about the letter (which I bet you still are). Rather than write a response, ask for a copy of the letter in writing. Copy it to your HR department. Be very professional about it and resist the urge to be defensive and accusatory. Have someone you trust review it before you send it, to be sure it simply says you would appreciate having a copy of the letter.

This way, you have put on record that you want a copy. You will have time to collect your thoughts if you still want to respond. The key here is to take the high road. Good luck!

Nurse Nancy

August 5, 2004

I am currently working as a school nurse in a Military Dependent School System overseas. We are hoping to retire next summer. What can I do to prepare to return to the hospital/clinical environment, as well as make myself marketable to
prospective employers?

BR

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Dear BR,

I am not sure what part of the country you are moving to, but experienced school nurses are in demand in many areas, so if you want to continue in your specialty my guess is you will be able to do so. I would imagine your current skills would be marketable to prospective employers; make sure your résumé reflects what you have been doing. Also, be sure your BCLS is up to date, along with any certifications you might have.

I imagine an ambulatory setting would be happy to have you also. You just have to find your niche and you’ll figure out what to do. Good luck!

Nurse Nancy

August 4, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I'm an RN and have not been in the hospital for 10 years now. I searched for a job in the hospital to go back into my profession and I found one employer, but they suggest that I should take first a refresher course before they will hire me. My questions are, How long will it take for me to complete that course? Do you have any idea of how much it will cost (refresher course)? What are my chances of getting a job without taking a refresher course? Will there be any employer who could consider me without any experience in the hospital? Thanks for your time.

Sincerely,

MJ

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Dear MJ,

Welcome back to nursing. I can tell you that things are very different from 10 years ago, and I think you will be much more confident if you take a refresher course. Most community colleges offer them, and they are generally one semester (some might be longer). The cost would be whatever the cost of the college is.

As for employers taking you back without the refresher; anything is possible, but my experience is that they require you to have some kind of an update. Good luck on your re-entry. We need you!

Nurse Nancy

August 3, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

Please send me information about end-of-life issues so that patients die comfortably and not alone. I work as an RN for Salem Hospital. Salem Hospital is interested in initiating this volunteer program.

NR

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Dear NR,

I am not sure about a volunteer program for this, but a great place to start to look into end-of-life issues is Last Acts. (www.lastacts.com) This is a national coalition to improve care and caring near the end of life.

Their website has all sorts of great information which I know will help you.

Good luck.

Nurse Nancy

August 2, 2004

Dear Nurse Nancy,

I am an RN-associate degree from 1980. I live in the San Fernando Valley-Los Angeles County. I would like to further my education and obtain a BS and perhaps an MS. I am interested in patient education in the fields of diabetes and cardiac rehab. I am also interested in holistic care. I would like to know the schools in Los Angeles County that have BS/MS programs as well as online education possibilities. Can you help me with a starting point? Thanks.

DS

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Dear DS,

I think your starting point is right where you are – at Nurseweek.com. We have a list of every nursing school in the United States, and you can click here, to find all sorts of programs. Do some serious investigation, as many schools have a combined program where you can work on both your BS and MS at the same time. Online education is also an option, and perhaps that will be the best way for you to earn your degree.

Good luck.

Nurse Nancy


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Nancy E. Mooney,
MA, RN, ONC

Nancy Mooney has been a registered nurse for over 30 years, and her career has allowed her to work in a variety of settings and roles. She has worked as a staff nurse, nurse manager, educator, adjunct faculty, and has been a Director of Patient Care Services. Currently she is the Pain Management Coordinator in a hospital in New York City.

Certified in orthopaedic nursing, Nancy has been an active member of the National Association of Orthopaedic Nurses, having served as the President in 1996-1997. Originally, she was a diploma nurse, and earned her BSN from the University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill, and her Masters in Nursing Education from New York University.